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New pelli sound limit

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There will be a new limit on sound at pelli AFTER this weekend's event, the new limit has been set to 93 db by Pellisippi state college. This WILL be strictly enforced so we don't loose the site. After this Sunday's event we have smokies stadium and adessa before we go back to pelli for the last event, so you have 2 events to get your car within or under 93 db's. We don't want to loose this site!
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So can I go ahead and call out warnings at 93 for this event? Not DNFs at 93 but at least go ahead and drop the warning level to 93db.
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If someone blows 93db more than once are they done for the day? Are there any registered who are at or above the 93db from past events that might need a reminder before they get to the event? Hate to have a few not see this so late in the week who might be right at the old 96db make the trip and shut down for exceeding sound. ...Mike do we have a few this will effect?
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joker717 wrote:So can I go ahead and call out warnings at 93 for this event? Not DNFs at 93 but at least go ahead and drop the warning level to 93db.
That is already the current policy.


ETRSCCA Vehicle Sound Policy

This sound policy is in place to protect our access to event sites. Loud cars aren’t usually appreciated by the general public. The competitor shall carry sole responsibility for ensuring their vehicle complies with these Sound Control Standards and Procedures. Vehicle sound emission is not a constant factor that can be trimmed to barely legal (in the manner of engine displacement or vehicle weight.) Sound emissions may vary significantly from morning to afternoon, and day to day, so the competitor is advised to target any vehicle sound emission level “adjustments” to well under the limit, to allow for variations in conditions. The intent of the following rules is to truly make our events quieter by limiting the sound level produced by individual vehicles. Competitors are expected to use mufflers as the primary method for sound reduction.

STANDARD and MEASUREMENT

Maximum limit of 96 dB, with the meter set to “A” weighting, “Slow” Response.
The microphone will be mounted on a tripod, 3-4 feet above ground level at the measuring point 50 ft from the edge of the course lane, using a coned gate as a reference.
The microphone will be positioned perpendicular to the vehicle’s direction of travel.
Measurement will be taken at a point on course where the car can reasonably be expected to be at full throttle, under load, and at high RPM.
Sound control operator will record readings over 90dBA and may at the operators discretion record or check off those under 90dBA for reference later.

VIOLATIONS

When a vehicle exceeds 93dBA, the sound operator will inform the grid worker, and the driver will be notified.
Any run 96dBA or over will be scored a DNF. The accuracy of the meter will be taken into consideration and the max value will reflect this. Our current meter is plus or minus 1.5dB so driver will receive a DNF when over 97.5dB with this meter.
Purposely lifting or coasting by the sound meter will result in a DNF.
When a car in violation (97.5dBA or over with current meter) returns to grid, the Grid worker will notify the driver of the car’s measured sound level. The driver will be given the opportunity for a “mechanical delay” to attempt to reduce the vehicle’s sound level. If, in the judgment of the Grid worker and/or event staff, the driver has attempted a viable remedy, he will authorize a “second chance run”. If the driver(s) declines any “repair” action, or the “repair” is deemed inadequate or inappropriate by the Grid Worker/event staff, the driver(s) will forfeit all subsequent runs in that vehicle. The Grid Worker/event staff may offer advice to competitors. This advice, however, shall be in no manner be construed to imply that said suggested corrective action(s) absolves the competitor from complying. If the vehicle exceeds either limit on the “second” chance run, the vehicle may be given one “final chance” run if the vehicle meets all the requirements of the previous paragraph (second chance run).
If the vehicle exceeds the limit on the “final” chance run, all subsequent runs by that vehicle, if any, are forfeited.
Drivers may appeal the decision of the Grid Worker to the Event Chair. (This part may be pointless since event chair is most likely part of the event staff that made the decision on allowing the car to run again)
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Whoever made the Facebook post...the sound limit will not be in effect until the last PSCC event of the year according to JYs post

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Gen52SS wrote:If someone blows 93db more than once are they done for the day? Are there any registered who are at or above the 93db from past events that might need a reminder before they get to the event? Hate to have a few not see this so late in the week who might be right at the old 96db make the trip and shut down for exceeding sound. ...Mike do we have a few this will effect?
jcox07 wrote: After this Sunday's event we have smokies stadium and adessa before we go back to pelli for the last event, so you have 2 events to get your car within or under 93 db's. We don't want to loose this site!
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the sky is falling! the sky is falling !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well I sure hope we find another site to replace pellisippi; cause I'll not be back when this goes into inforcement........
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Jim, I think Mike has a solution for you already and I think he will have it at pelli for this Sunday and this new limit is not in effect till the November event at pelli as this Sunday's event is still 96 db.
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I will be out! Looks like I will have to start doing some research soon! I was 94.5 ish every lap.
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What will the limit be at non-pelli sites?
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We are still at 96.5 for this event but we will be letting those who are over 93 know what they are so everyone can start to making changes. Non pelli events will be 96.5 or higher depending on the site BMS will always be 100
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jcox07 wrote:We are still at 96.5 for this event but we will be letting those who are over 93 know what they are so everyone can start to making changes.
Yes but

What will the limit be at non-pelli sites?
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Sorry see it now

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Sounds like the end of Street tires.

Those things squeal louder than 93 db :)
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