Race seats in Street class

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Apexemall
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Race seats in Street class

Post by Apexemall » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:31 pm

Official SCCA Street class rules do not seem to allow driver seat changes, but local clubs have some discretion in waiving some rules for local events. A safe, effective restraint system cannot be done properly without an SFI certified seat, and I’d like to install a harness bar, 6 pt harness and race seat in my A street C6 Vette. Has this topic been considered in the past. What was the consensus. I do not feel that the seat is a major competitive advantage at the local level, but it would be a major safety upgrade for Track days.

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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by RxCritical » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:21 pm

I would also think that a race seat would better hold a driver in place and thus violate the intent of street class. I believe that allowing such changes not specifically allowed in street class would set a precedent that would allow more rules creep. Sorry but I would not be in favor of allowing such a change while you were classed in street.
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by dewittpayne » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:46 pm

The only proper way to attach a harness is to a roll cage. Harness bars are evil, as are four point harnesses. Even if you're not using the harness on the street, which you shouldn't, the bar itself can be dangerous in a wreck.
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by Miata22 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:06 pm

Yes the racing seat is a big advantage over stock seat, even in Autocross. I'm seeing prepared classes in your future.
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by Apexemall » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:43 am

Interesting.

I agree that 4 point belts are very, very dangerous and should NEVER be used.
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by steverife » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:10 am

I'm pretty lax on rules for locals, but that is probably beyond what I'd want to let slide.
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by Teufelshund » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:53 am

It also has the potential to be a huge weight savings (relative to street classes)
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by lcoleman » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:13 pm

While I use a harness bar and 4pt harness, I'd never argue that either/or are safe or effective, especially as a safety measure, at the minimum at an autocross or especially at a track day.
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by Apexemall » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:04 pm

OK guys. Thanks for all the reply’s. The sentiment is clearly against race seats in street class. If I continue to track the Vette and install a seat, I’ll have to come up with a quick change setup for my visits to ETR or switch to CAM.

Since the 4 point harness was mentioned, I’ll say once again how dangerous they are. Worse than stock 3 points because of the tendency to submarine (in a 4 pt) and let the lap belt ride up on your abdomen where it can do massive damage. The 5th and 6th points keep the lap belts down on your hip bones which can handle much greater impacts. This admonition comes directly from NASA’s HPDE3 safety classes.
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Re: Race seats in Street class

Post by Miata22 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:40 pm

Come on over to the dark side and play in CAM! More the merrier.
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