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jcox07 wrote:Yep JB that cone on the left hand turn before the finish did get hit a lot also. The biggest cones being hit during 1 and 2 run groups I don't have a clue on as I was not looking at course due to breakage. I would venture a guess that the 4 lay down cones at the top of the chute got a lot of attention and they were even counted.... That would have driven the cone count probably over 300, I don't understand why so many cars hit those cones as you had to give it up to turn right, I guess some underestimated when to brake...lol I looked at all my videos from events 1 and 2 and 4 and 5 and this was by far the tightest slaloms we have run at pelli this year, that had a lot to do with cone count as event 2 had 186 cones hit not too far off of this number.
no argument on that I don't suppose. We had saloms in the early 2000's that were 45ft set up by Pilson.. Carpenter and I would even measure them to make sure they were legal. :lol: (that's is why we have the distance wheel)

How open should the saloms be? 75 ft? that should all but eliminate anything less than 300 HP from the event totally.

How many cones did we have at the test and tune course right off the start?
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Event 3.5 you were 2 tenths off of me and they were 26 paces.... not sure how far you were off of our alien (et cathers) that won this past Sunday.
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jcox07 wrote:Event 3.5 you were 2 tenths off of me and they were 26 paces.... not sure how far you were off of our alien (et cathers) that won this past Sunday.

how many cones did you have set up? on the start salom? and we didn't have a bottom salom..and the up hill was more open (wider)
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7 slaloms on the start and off sets on the bottom and turned right going up the hill just after clearing the islands to a hard cone going by it on the drivers side to a cone going by it on the passenger side b4 going into the right hand sweeper that was our finish turn this weekend.
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jcox07 wrote:7 slaloms on the start and off sets on the bottom and turned right going up the hill just after clearing the islands to a hard cone going by it on the drivers side to a cone going by it on the passenger side b4 going into the right hand sweeper that was our finish turn this weekend.

That's weird.. I had 6, the first one before the up hill.. and an offset gate at the end. How did you wedge 7 into the same space and have more distance between them?
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jcox07 wrote:. I would venture a guess that the 4 lay down cones at the top of the chute got a lot of attention and they were even counted.... That would have driven the cone count probably over 300, I don't understand why so many cars hit those cones as you had to give it up to turn right, I guess some underestimated when to brake....
Simple, trying to maintain speed, momentum and not having the enough grip with the tires. DUH! :roll: :lol:
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That is weird, U must have skipped one, on my videos from sunday I had 7 slalom cones to go around...
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jcox07 wrote:I just finished with the audit sheets and I will go over results once Chris gets them up to make sure every thing matches up and boy what a mess! 224 cones hit, not sure but I think that may be one of the highest cone counts that I can remember in my 5 years autoxing....
I'm pretty sure I hit more this event than I have in a long long time … though it really wasn't all that many :D
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6 salom cones.. then 2 cones for an offset gate. then the turn towards the downhill. the two off set cones were WOT in any car.

If you were driving it as 7 cones..that may be the problem. I was driving thru 6.

When we did the test and tune.. we entered much,much faster due to the long run at it...then slowing. Sunday was full throttle thru 1 or 2 cones.. then lift..level out... then accelerate from between the 5th and 6th cone and full throttle to the turn. We all did full throttle by the 2 off set cones.. I hope.

Again.. we all can use some real salom practice.. 60 mph saloms at Pilli are just straight a ways for most cars.

save those videos.. Id like to see em.
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After my 1st run, I didn't like the course, but it kept getting better as I drove it. I ended up really enjoying the challenge, as it was one of the more technical courses we've ran in a while. You had to be patient in the slalom or you were done. If you got the first brake zone right, you could gain some time between slaloms. The 2nd slalom had a tough entry. You could really see gains if you got the entry to the chute right and you had line choices up top.

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Heck, I would love to be able to hit 60 in a slalom at pelli, but the best I have ever been at pelli is 48 mph according to solo storm and I was at 34 and Pilson was a little faster at 36-37 this weekend. I guess I am going to have to try hard to find a lighter motor to cut more nose weight.
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jcox07 wrote:I guess I am going to have to try hard to find a lighter motor to cut more nose weight.
Nah, ur engine's in wrong.



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jcox07 wrote:Heck, I would love to be able to hit 60 in a slalom at pelli, but the best I have ever been at pelli is 48 mph according to solo storm and I was at 34 and Pilson was a little faster at 36-37 this weekend. I guess I am going to have to try hard to find a lighter motor to cut more nose weight.
or find some grippier tires …. oh … wait :lol:
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jcox07 wrote:Wow what could go wrong did and it went wrong 3-4 times each time. Sorry for the long day my fellow autoxers. We will have the run groups 1 and 2 times up as soon as we can. Run group 3 hit 97 cones, I have not seen that many cones hit in one run group in a long time and I am sure that the other run groups probably got close to that or maybe more cones as well. We tried a little some thing different with the course design and I think maybe a few liked it and a few maybe not so much. Hopefully we can try and keep the timing cords out of harms way next time....lol Don't forget about event 9 at adessa on Oct. 4th as we don't get to run there but once a year and it is usually a great event at a different site. See every one at adessa and we will get the winners and runner ups there T-Shirts as soon as we get the results. Thanks again to all who stayed the course and made a long day a good day.


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This was my first autocross ever. Know its not how they usually go but I had fun. Its killing me, me last run was the best as I think I figured out my gearing by then, but with the board down and no smart phone I still have no idea what I ran, where I placed or anything.

I have to really respect whoever drove the Geo. With that v8 in the back I knew that thing would have under steer but had no idea it would be that much. I worked corner 4 last group and watching that thing almost wheelie up the hill was great. When they came around that jog in the upper section between the sweepers it laid down a dead straight set of marks.
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