Adult carts at local events??

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TedV
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Adult carts at local events??

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I know in the past adult carts were not allowed at local events. Has that changed to allow the adult single speed and shifter carts??????

Until this weekend, the only carts I’ve seen in person have been the local dirt carts. I wasn’t too impressed with them. Moroso Motorsports Park has put in a cart road race track. We are set up 20 yards from it. Those things HAUL A!! :shock: :twisted: :twisted:

Tell me we can’t run them, cause it looks like it would be some fast fun on an autocross course for a reasonable price. Hitting a cone might be a bit of a pain tho…. :?
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A 125 shifter kart usually runs in Nashville and gets FTD. Most of our sites and course designs do not accomodate a kart other than the 5hp junior version. We have turned away karts at WBHS for instance. The SCCA rules are:

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D. The Solo Safety Steward shall have the authority to disapprove a
course or site for karts only, when there are upright solid objects
(e.g. light poles, fence posts, etc.) on the site within 50 feet of
the actual course. This does not include curbs. While safety
systems for karts provide acceptable driver protection for most
incidents, upright solid objects present potential hazard for which
kart safety systems are not well suited. This rule gives the Solo
Safety Steward the option of excluding karts without having to
declare the site unsafe for everyone. It is up to the judgment of
the Solo Safety Steward whether the course design, surface, solid
objects, and type of karts running present an unsafe mix. In most
cases, the situation can be resolved by a course design change.
KART SOLO II EVENTS
Solo II events which will have karts competing must so designate on the
sanction application. Prior approval is not required. The rules for organizing
and conducting a Solo II event with karts are found in Appendix G.
APPENDIX G - KARTS AT SOLO II EVENTS.
I. APPROVAL PROCEDURE
A. Regions conducting Solo II events which will have karts competing
must so indicate on the sanction application.
B. A post event report describing the kart portion of the event should
be submitted with the usual Audit Report Form. These event
reports will be helpful to the SCCA in more effectively evaluating
the kart program.
II. EVENT OPERATION PROCEDURES
A. Karts will not be allowed to be driven under power through the
paddock; they must be pushed either on the ground or on a portable
stand.
B. A grid area must be established that is either separated from the
regular car grid or grids karts with similar sized vehicles such as
formula cars. Traffic flow to and from the grid area must be
controlled.
C. If karts are allowed which require a push-start, such as shifter
karts, the grid area must accommodate this need adequately.
D. All karts will be run as a group or grouped with formula cars, and
not intermixed on course with full-bodied cars. However, at the
discretion of the Solo Safety Steward, the Event Chairman, and
the Chief Stewards, karts may be allowed on course with fullbodied
cars if the course design allows for safe separation, such
as the start and finish areas being remote from each other.
E. Event procedures regarding karts will be announced at the drivers’
meeting and will also be in written form for posting.
III. KART ELIGIBILITY
A. Kart eligibility is limited to racing karts recognized and regulated
by a national kart sanctioning organization (WKA, IKF, ISRA,
NSKA, etc.) with a maximum of one 125cc engine. 125cc shifter
karts are the fastest karts allowed.
B. It is the responsibility of the kart entrant to provide the rules to
which their kart is eligible and prepared.
C. Specific designation of classes is at the discretion of the hosting
region as long as the above eligibility requirements are met.


V. CLASS STRUCTURE
1. Formula Junior 1
AGE: 8-11
ENGINES: Box Stock B&S Raptor, Balanced and Blueprinted Raptor.
FUEL: Gas or Methanol
WEIGHT:
B&B Gas Raptor: 245
B&B Methanol Raptor: 250
OTHER: No B&S controlled Stock, Modified, limited Modified or
Open Motors
2. Formula Junior 2
AGE: 12-15
ENGINES: Box Stock B&S Raptor, Balanced and Blueprinted Raptor.
FUEL: Gas or Methanol
WEIGHT:
B&B Gas Raptor: 250
B&B Methanol Raptor: 285
OTHER: No B&S controlled Stock, Modified, limited Modified or
Open Motors
3. Formula Junior 3
AGE: 8-11 (basically mirrors 2002 WKA Mfr.’s cup series class,
Yamaha Junior Sportsman)
ENGINE: Yamaha KT-100, only heads with OEM casting “Yamaha”
and cylinders with Y3 or Y4 and 787 are legal.
FUEL: Gas and Oil
CARBURETOR: Walbro WA55b or HPV1 with WA55B manifold.
EXHAUST: RLV SSX-V. If hole exists in pipe for EGT sensor, EGT
sensor probe must be in place. See Fig. 554.3 in WKA Technical
Manual. (see other for alternate configuration)
WEIGHT: 250
OTHER: Alternate configuration may be Walbro WB3A carburetor
and 0.600 restrictor plate with RLV YBX exhaust (IKF Junior 1
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class).
4. Formula Junior 4
AGE: 12-15 (basically mirrors 2002 WKA Mfr.’s cup series class,
Formula Yamaha Junior)
ENGINE: Yamaha KT-100, only heads with OEM casting “Yamaha”
and cylinders with Y3 or Y4 and 787 are legal.
CARBURETOR: Walbro WB3A.
EXHAUST: RLV SSX-V See fig. 554.3 in WKA Technical Manual.
FUEL: Gas and Oil
WEIGHT: 295
NOTES:
Kart chassis specifications will follow the WKA Technical Manual (for
kart specifications only – not conduct of event rules) outlined in sections
100, 200, 250, 500, 550, 600, 700, and 750.
Minimum weights, for 2003 in all FJr. Classes:
For the 2003 season there will be no DSQ penalty imposed for weighing
light, i.e. up to 10 pounds under the specified weight. For weight
variations from the minimum in excess of 10 lb., there will be a time
penalty of 0.10 second imposed per pound.
After the 2003 season, any weight variation below minimum will
incur a time penalty of 0.10 second per pound.
Weights in the Formula Junior 1 & 2 classes, for the different engine
preparation levels/fuel type will be adjusted, as is deemed necessary,
to achieve performance parity.
Tires: For all classes: maximum tire size for rear tires is 7.1 x 11.0-
5. Maximum size for front tires is 5.0 x 10.5-5. Tire Compound is
open.
Clutches: For all classes, wet or dry clutches allowed. Jackshaft
clutch drives for 2 cycle engines allowed, but must be securely fastened
to the engine and/or engine mount. No frame mounted
Jackshafts. Axle clutches are not allowed
Other age appropriate engine/weight packages will be allowed at
SCCA National Tours and ProSolos in Formula Junior. However they
will run for time only and will not be in consideration for “trophy positions”.
Safety Equipment:
Helmets: Full coverage (full face) helmets designed for competitive
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motorsports use complying with Solo2 Rules section 4.3.1 regarding
current required Snell rating. Eye Protection is mandatory via a full
visor (clear view) integral with helmet.
Neck Braces: Collar-type, unaltered neck braces designed for
motorsports use is mandatory in all classes.
Driver apparel: Drivers are minimally required to wear jackets of
leather, vinyl or abrasion resistant nylon or equivalent and full-length
pants to prevent or minimize abrasions. Shoes, socks and gloves are
mandatory. Full abrasion kart suits are recommended.
Old men can still dream!

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Post by steverife »

:(

i've had kart fever for a while. if i lived somewhere where i could get my money's worth out of one, i'd buy one today.
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Post by TedV »

Uhh, Scott, I hope you didn’t type all that. :shock: If you did, you have too much time on your hands being retired and all. :lol: A simple no cause of the 50 feet minimum instead of the 25 feet minimum for a car would have been fine. I have the rule book back at the house, but thanks. :cry:

Looks like a F500 or some other kind of formula car would be a better bet. Able to autocross the courses we have and road race it. Like I get to road race the ITC car I have now. :roll:
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Post by scottgib »

It is as easy to cut and paste a chapter as it is a sentence. Sorry I worked you too hard. :twisted:
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