CAM Class
Re: CAM Class
All this talk about brakes being approved on CAM cars, new cars... lol...
When someone gets serious about a CAM-C car, it will look like the ridiculous build CAM-T cars. Start with a white body, cut it up to fix all the geometry issues inherent in a production car, lexan, fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc. That's the start.
When someone gets serious about a CAM-C car, it will look like the ridiculous build CAM-T cars. Start with a white body, cut it up to fix all the geometry issues inherent in a production car, lexan, fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc. That's the start.
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Re: CAM Class
For one, replace the strut front suspension with double A arm. You could probably do that now with the Griggs SLA system. The autocross version for the 05-14 S197 is less than $10,000, barely.MARKP wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:18 pm All this talk about brakes being approved on CAM cars, new cars... lol...
When someone gets serious about a CAM-C car, it will look like the ridiculous build CAM-T cars. Start with a white body, cut it up to fix all the geometry issues inherent in a production car, lexan, fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc. That's the start.
DeWitt Payne
2011 Mustang GT CAM-C
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Re: CAM Class
I have driven a couple autocross cars with the griggs suspension and either they didn't know how to set them up or it doesn't transfer from the track to autocross courses cause they were junk.
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Re: CAM Class
Don't know who else looked at some CP cars at nats, but I noticed a few that had added some interior bits.MARKP wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:18 pm All this talk about brakes being approved on CAM cars, new cars... lol...
When someone gets serious about a CAM-C car, it will look like the ridiculous build CAM-T cars. Start with a white body, cut it up to fix all the geometry issues inherent in a production car, lexan, fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc. That's the start.
With that said, when you look at the min weights and the limitations of a street tire, I'm not sure how much all of that will get you. I think I'd take great driver in well modded new Camaro over good driver in hypothetical class killer.
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all this chit-chat.. makes me want to stay in STP. The cost could get waaaaay out of hand quickly. The times are very close.. (for now)
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Re: CAM Class
I am telling you all that cam is about to go nuts on cost as some, not all will start to throw some crazy money at their cars, otherwise it will be only a handful of cars that will be competitive.
Edit: And for the stp nats winner to be 2 seconds faster than the cam c winner should tell you something about prep levels.
Edit: And for the stp nats winner to be 2 seconds faster than the cam c winner should tell you something about prep levels.
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Re: CAM Class
CAM is too slow... or STP is too fast?? lol
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Re: CAM Class
Looks like I now need another 150# of ballast.
But the Corvettes get 100# lighter.
But the Corvettes get 100# lighter.
Mike Kelly
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Re: CAM Class
CAM Nation makes me LOL. Its going to be hard not to post there. Thanks Steve!
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Looking at national and tour results, if you exclude the GM Performance guys, CAMC is currently slower than FS.
I'm betting that changes for '18.
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Re: CAM Class
I'd agree Steve. As our local STM class has shown us, there's only so much a 200 TW will give you. Just like anything else, you need to pick a car that you can get to minimum weight as easily as possible. That said, we all know how dangerous perception is when it comes to what you have to do to prep a car and how quickly perception can kill a class.steverife wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:17 amDon't know who else looked at some CP cars at nats, but I noticed a few that had added some interior bits.MARKP wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:18 pm All this talk about brakes being approved on CAM cars, new cars... lol...
When someone gets serious about a CAM-C car, it will look like the ridiculous build CAM-T cars. Start with a white body, cut it up to fix all the geometry issues inherent in a production car, lexan, fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc. That's the start.
With that said, when you look at the min weights and the limitations of a street tire, I'm not sure how much all of that will get you. I think I'd take great driver in well modded new Camaro over good driver in hypothetical class killer.
Chris Harp
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Re: CAM Class
With that said, look at CP. Most of those cars are TERRIBLE. Half the field got beat by 10 seconds by a car that could be converted back to ESP in a weekend. They ALWAYS make good numbers.
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Re: CAM Class
My vote would be setup. When you have more things to adjust, it's really easy to end up in the boonies somewhere, as I discovered this year. A fairly small reduction in rear shock rebound made the car unstable and slow.
DeWitt Payne
2011 Mustang GT CAM-C
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Re: CAM Class
Wow so much talk about CAM! That just gets me pumped about next year. I think CAM is more popular than ever. What's really cool is you can build your shit the way you want it. To me building the car is almost as much fun as Autocrossing the car. I like the Griggs rear suspension. It makes the most engineered since to me. We will see in the spring?
Randy Adkins