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CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:20 pm
by disneyd
Can anyone think of a better way of doing the CAM designations on the pax class CAM cars?

I've already ordered and received a set for the Z06, so they're CCAMS..... five letters at SCCA height/size. I'm not sure I have enough door :D

We have to have the C (or some pax designator) in front for the timing software.

We don't want to cause anyone who already has numbers to have to buy anything new.

Since we have no open CAM class and everyone is forced into the CAM pax class (right?), what if we made a MS, MT, and MC class, so with the pax designator we'd have CMS, CMT, and CMC.

The only problem is that we'd have to go completely to this and get rid of the longer class designations in order to eliminate confusion in the timing trailer (no mixing/matching) but this could cause confusion with unfamiliar people registering as they might look for CAM and rightly have no idea about the replacement classes.

Another option would be to leave everything as is and just make timing aware that a CMS on a car means CCAMS, CMC = CCAMC, etc. Brian, what do you think about that?

Just thinking out loud here.... maybe a bad idea.... or I'm just lazy and don't want to apply/peel all those letters every event :wink:

Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:22 pm
by thrdeye
Couldn't you just drop the leading C? This would save space and also keep folks compliant for national events. Timing and reg would just have to know to put all CAM vehicles into C.

Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:46 pm
by Gen52SS
CAMS car#

Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:49 pm
by thrdeye
The other option you might consider is just to dump everyone into 1 Raw time only CAM class for locals. My thinking is that the PAX is so far off for local competition that it might be more fun an interesting just to keep it heads up.

Re: RE: Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:10 pm
by MARKP
thrdeye wrote:Couldn't you just drop the leading C? This would save space and also keep folks compliant for national events. Timing and reg would just have to know to put all CAM vehicles into C.
I agree with this. Never knew why we needed a PAX designator locally if all CAM cars are going into one PAXed class.

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Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:20 pm
by Challenger
I run mine as CAM C #. Didn't know there was a need for the leading C. Now Dee will have 5 letters since she's running ladies....LCAM C. Bad thing is I do have enough door [emoji38]



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Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:24 pm
by disneyd
They're not. It's just like Pro. Each CAM class runs their respective pax multiplier.

Chris, your suggestion works but has the same issue my first idea has. It will screw up online registration as people would need to know to sign up for AMS class with a C pax modifier to get to CAMS.


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Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:44 pm
by Gen52SS
National and the CAM Challenge uses exactly what we have used since the class was introduced
CAMC 99
CAMT. 99
CAMS. 99

Many already have these numbers no need to change IMO

Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:40 pm
by disneyd
We're technically using CCAMC, CCAMT, and CCAMS.

Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:45 pm
by Gen52SS
disneyd wrote:We're technically using CCAMC, CCAMT, and CCAMS.
Yes in registration and timing but on the car just
CAM C
CAM T
CAM S

Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:26 pm
by disneyd
Well, that's helps a bit, as long as timing always knows to put an extra C in front.

That may be how we ended up with the extra non pax CAM classes in the system last year.


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Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:17 am
by benk
Most timing folks know by now to add the additional C into the class. First two or three events with that were a little confusing though. "Why do so many cars not exist in axware? What did registration screw up?"

Turned out to not be registration of course, but threw us for a loop at first.

Re: CAM Class Numbers

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:21 pm
by Teufelshund
I'm good with dropping the leading C from the car as stated before. CAMC, CAMS, etc. I think we need to continue running CAM as a PAX class.