how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving habits?
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how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving habits?
curious how this has affected everyone elses habits ON the road. though I have only have the chance to do this twice, ironically both times the next day I had to do nasty accident avoidances that involves the unavoidable braking and sliding to avoid a accident but no loss of control. now on the street when its dry I drive my tin can a bit faster on curves, I know more of how to push it and let is slide a little bit but controlably. overall I think everyone should go balls out on the autox like I did trying my car at its limits pushing all wheels slides and getting a sense of how to keep it under control
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
On average I'd say I drive slower on the street than I used to. I guess I get it out of my system at autocross.
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
I have definitely driven my way out of several situations (most of which were caused by another driver and not myself) where I'm sure I would have been involved in an accident had I not been autocrossing for years.
I don't think my general driving habits have been affected much by autocrossing, other than a fine-tuning of my situational awareness... for example I will adjust my following distances more accurately because I have a better idea of how far it will take me to stop or turn depending on what surface I'm on, what car I'm driving, and what the tires and brakes are capable of.
I think all new drivers need to be (safely) put in a situation where they lose control of a vehicle and be taught how to deal with it. That way they know how the car feels before it loses traction and gain the muscle memory to correct in time. I have no idea why this isn't done in driver's ed courses. For most new drivers the first time they under/over-steer is when they are about the hit the solid object (with the wheel cranked to lock and the brakes on the floor).
I don't think my general driving habits have been affected much by autocrossing, other than a fine-tuning of my situational awareness... for example I will adjust my following distances more accurately because I have a better idea of how far it will take me to stop or turn depending on what surface I'm on, what car I'm driving, and what the tires and brakes are capable of.
I think all new drivers need to be (safely) put in a situation where they lose control of a vehicle and be taught how to deal with it. That way they know how the car feels before it loses traction and gain the muscle memory to correct in time. I have no idea why this isn't done in driver's ed courses. For most new drivers the first time they under/over-steer is when they are about the hit the solid object (with the wheel cranked to lock and the brakes on the floor).
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Amen, preach on!disneyd wrote: I have no idea why this isn't done in driver's ed courses. For most new drivers the first time they under/over-steer is when they are about the hit the solid object (with the wheel cranked to lock and the brakes on the floor).
Nothing I've been exposed to teaches car control as effectively as competitive autocross.
I also agree with Gary; it tends to get "the need for speed" out of my system.
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
X1000!99KiaSephia wrote:Accident avoidance and inclement weather (ice/snow) is %1000 times better now.
Beyond this, I haven't particularly noticed any added benefits, except maybe looking ahead more. I do shuffle steer much more, though.
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
I aim for apexes a lot more on the street now. For instance turning left at intersections I'm always trying to get the apex just right. If I'm in the Oldsmobile, I'll even do this curb medians, such as the one turning left from Peters Rd. onto Cedar bluff. I'm come millimeters from rubbing the tires on that inside lane many times. However, I don't do this with curbs in the camaro. I do this everyday turning into work. We have a hard left and I'm always aiming to just miss the reflector that seperates my lane and oncoming traffic (assuming traffic is not right near the reflector).
The one downside to autocross driving: I also brake a lot later now on the street, which could be a bad thing if I miss judge.
The one downside to autocross driving: I also brake a lot later now on the street, which could be a bad thing if I miss judge.
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
I shuffle steer and keep my left foot on the dead pedal when cornering. lol
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
Looking ahead more, both hands on the wheel more, accident avoidance better.
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coming home from my first a-x I realized I was driving much more relaxed than normal.... in the following days and weeks I found that while my speed on the highway was about the same, my need to tailgate you 'till you moved out of the way was 'bout gone... ever since then I've keep that "more relaxed" feeling... look much farther ahead, and have managed to avoid and even anticipate situations that I probably wouldn't have prior to a-x and track days
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
I agree with all of the responses to the original question. I am typically more aware of what is going on with the car and aware of what other cars will do if they screw up. I would say it has made me more defensive although other non-autocrossers don't see it that way because they see what is going on at the last minute and I saw it coming a mile away (literally in some cases).
I avoided a nasty crash years ago on an icy bridge because I saw the Suzuki Samurai losing it in the far right lane and got off the gas before he came across in front of me (across 4 lanes) and got smacked by a tow truck (ironic, huh?).
I avoided a nasty crash years ago on an icy bridge because I saw the Suzuki Samurai losing it in the far right lane and got off the gas before he came across in front of me (across 4 lanes) and got smacked by a tow truck (ironic, huh?).
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Re: how has autocrossing affect everyones street driving hab
I think I became a worse driver before I became a better driver. I always liked cars, but never pushed a car on the street much at all before autocross. Once I got that out of my system, I now look ahead and plan ahead better and I'm a little more aware of road conditions.
All the traveling has also significantly built up my tolerance to extended driving. Ten years ago, I never would have thought that I would be able to work all day, then drive 400-500 miles after work, or cover 1000 miles in a day.
All the traveling has also significantly built up my tolerance to extended driving. Ten years ago, I never would have thought that I would be able to work all day, then drive 400-500 miles after work, or cover 1000 miles in a day.
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Yes to all the above. And I also get closer to things than I should. Curbs,gaurdrails, and anything else on the inside of turns. I don't really notice it but passengers sometimes yell for no real reason. Chad
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I try to watch at least one to two cars ahead when on the interstate,and at the same time hang back with enough distance from the car in front.Most time watch the second one ahead. It seems to dictate what the one in front does. I also try to keep the same watch on the Pike and the in town roads.Euro driving schools dwell on that,as well as the side road entries into your path.
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There are a few things I do a lot different after autocrossing for a few years.
1. I look ahead and through turns WAY further than I ever did before.
2. I try to make smooth, continuous arcs every time I turn the wheel.
3. I have two hands on the steering wheel nearly at all times.
1. I look ahead and through turns WAY further than I ever did before.
2. I try to make smooth, continuous arcs every time I turn the wheel.
3. I have two hands on the steering wheel nearly at all times.
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Back to a Euro driving school.
TennTechMan wrote:There are a few things I do a lot different after autocrossing for a few years.
1. I look ahead and through turns WAY further than I ever did before.
2. I try to make smooth, continuous arcs every time I turn the wheel.
3. I have two hands on the steering wheel nearly at all times.
Bob Colbert